Finaplix - Fina - Trenbolone FAQ
By capinatl
FINAPLIX KITMAKERS
The standard conversion potency kits will yield is 75mg trenbolone per ml;
however, more and more kitmakers are going to a 100mg/ml yield. Most kitmakers
post 'magic dissolving solution' on their sites as part of their kit which
is actually benzyl alcohol, commonly referred to as 'BA'. Just about any
kitmaker you find on the Internet is probably legit as I've yet to hear of any
scamming kitmaker. Most people, including myself, have a favorite kitmaker due
to service and reputation in the bodybuilding community. I've used 5 different
kitmakers kits and have achieved cycle results with all kits.
A few experienced trenbolone conversion users like to make their own kits by
purchasing all that is needed from Internet suppliers, and even kitmakers. This
is certainly not cheaper or more user friendly, but I think desirable because
some trenbolone users develop a very personal relationship with their conversion
product. I always suggest buying a kit as it's the easiest, cheapest and
safest way to suspend your trenbolone. There is a lot more room for error in
your conversion if you assemble the kit yourself. IMO, if you haven't done
four or five conversions there is no advantage in producing the kit yourself.
FINAPLIX PELLETS VS. POWDER
When trenbolone is suspended by yourself at home you can be assured of two
things; potency and sterility. When you purchase pre-made trenbolone from an
underground lab (UG) you cannot be guaranteed of either of these issues.
Additionally, the price fro pre-made trenbolone can be outrageous ' I've
seen prices from $8 per ml to $14 per ml. Conversion with a kit and Finaplix
will const about $2.65 per ml, you will NOT find trenbolone pre-made from a
source for less than $5 per ml.
FINAPLIX PELLETS VS. POWDER
The most common conversion method involves dissolving Finaplix brand pellets,
suspending the trenbolone acetate in oil, separating the methylcellulose and
filtering the suspended product. With trenbolone acetate in powder form we have
the luxury of not dealing with the methylcellulose and simply dissolving and
suspending trenbolone in solvents and oil. This method is obviously more
desirable and becoming more popular. One security in using Finaplix pellets is
you know you are receiving true trenbolone. If you have access to powder be sure
you know your source. Whether you use pellets or powder I promise you will
benefit from trenbolone results.
CLOUDY FINA, THE COFFEE FILTER AND BAKING
Cloudy fina is completely fine, just a cosmetic issue; fina legend basskiller
has said that if you let the suspended trenbolone sit for a day before filtering
with a Whatman filter and/or coffee filter your conversion will come out
clearer. Many homebrewers ask if using the coffee filter is necessary ' it is
not. I utilize the coffee filter after I've filtered all I can through the
Whatman. I pour the leftover sludge into a coffee filter and squeeze out all I
can with my fingers and then filter that through the Whatman filter. This can
yield another 4 or 5 mls in your conversion. Most coffee filter users pour their
whole conversion through the filter which takes all night, and then filters
through the Whatman filter for a very clear conversion. I bake my fina for 30
minutes at 250 degrees. Some suggest baking for 45 minutes, and still others
suggest baking for 15 minutes, cooling, and repeating two more times. One thing
is universal, and that is the baking temperature of 250 degrees. It is brutally
important that you obtain an oven thermometer to calibrate your oven to 250
degrees. Rarely have I used an oven that was accurate. In order to destroy your
trenbolone you will have to bake it at 400 degrees according to most fina
fanatics, so don't worry if you are a few degrees too high.
FINAPLIX CONVERSION MATHEMATICS
Each Finaplix cartridge contains 2000mg (or 2 grams) or trenbolone acetate, so
you would need 2 cartridges for a '4g' kit conversion. The following recipe
is intended for a 4g kit: 8ml BA, 42ml oil, and 4000mg (4 grams) of Finaplix
pellets. This will yield an end product of 75mg/ml which is the standard
conversion. Add your volumes of oil+pellets+BA and divide that number into 4000
for a 4gram kit conversion. 4grams of fina is approximately equal to 4mls.
8mlBA+4gTREN+42ml oil divided into 4000 = 74.07mg/ml.
FINAPLIX CONVERSION VARIATIONS
Now, most homebrewers will say that the BA will NOT fully dissolve more than the
recommended amount of trenbolone pellets than comes in your kit. For instance,
if you use two 2g carts in your 2 g kit you really won't double your potency to
200mg/ml if your kit is designed for 100mg/ml. They will tell you you've wasted
a lot of fina. However, I've not seen any tests done on this method of increased
potency conversion - so until then I'm somewhat a skeptic. Animal, who is a
respected chemist, of sorts, has also said the same thing (that extra carts are
a waste). The most trusted method (myself included) of increasing potency
strength is to leave out some oil, thus increasing trenbolone ratio to total
volume. The biggest negative is that the injections may cause more soreness as
the BA ratio is higher than desired by most users. The other problem is that
there is skepticism as to whether or not the lower volume of oil will suspend
the trenbolone. Once again, I think the jury is out unless someone runs tests.
I don't have the time or care to invest the money to have my conversions tested
for potency, so all I have to go by is my experience with physical results and
sides while on fina to determine my likely yield potencies. The last kit I got I
modified to reduce pain as I am very sensitive to intramuscular fina shots. I've
lowered the amounts of BA and added Benzyl Benzoate (BB) as the BB is reputed to
help in post injection soreness. The BB will also dissolve and help sterilize
the converted product, but allegedly to a lesser degree than BA (of dissolving
power especially). This was my last conversion recipe:
2mlBA+4mlBB+4gTREN+29ml oil divided into 4000 = 102.5mg/ml.
This batch was painless, and according to my results was probably under the
calculated potency strength of 102.5. I believe this is because I was in a hurry
to dissolve and only swirled it for about one hour, and didn't use heat as an
aid.
This is my latest attempt at a high potency conversion:
2mlBA+6mlBB+6gTREN+26ml oil divided into 6000 = 150mg/ml
One key thing I've chosen to do differently is to let it dissolve for about
three days. I believe that the trenbolone had dissolved nicely, but then I am
going solely on visual comparisons to other successful batches I've converted. I
also utilized heat just before I completed the conversion as an extra measure.
I've tested the conversion and could taste the fina even when mixed with
testosterone, but until I cycle this conversion alone I can't comment on the
potency accuracy.
FINAPLIX-TRENBOLONE ACETATE DOSAGES
On my first fina cycle I started with testosterone and 75mg trenbolone EOD and
exploded in strength, vascularity and hardness. After a few more cycles with
fina and experimenting with dosages ranging from 75mg EOD to 112.5mg ED I have
concluded for myself that 150mg EOD is all I desire. At 75mg EOD I receive some
results, but nothing outstanding. At 150mg EOD I gain in size, strength,
vascularity and hardness ' however ' at this dosage I also receive negative
side effects like shoulder and lower back cramping, aggression, heartburn,
sleeplessness and night sweats. For me, when I begin to get negative side
effects I also begin to get positive sides as well. At higher dosages like
112.5mg ED my side effects become unbearable. The muscle cramping pain becomes
so intolerable that I often have to stop my workouts, quick in the middle of
squat routines, avoid deadlifts, and even totally skip shoulder days. I've
come to the conclusion that trenbolone dosage is a unique balance of sides vs.
results. Once the sides prevent me from achieving my workout goals or force me
to modify my routine drastically, it's time to cut back.
I have a good friend who included trenbolone in his second cycle at 100mg EOD
with testosterone and told me he wanted to go to 100mg ED. To this day I still
regret replying with a simple, 'O.K.' as his side effects went through the
roof. His aggression and attitude changed so much that his mother said to her
normally laid back son, 'What happened to my son? I don't even know you
anymore!' He said he couldn't control himself around his family and
girlfriend and unfortunately both relationships dissolved before his cycle
completion. Now there are a few on the boards who have done 150mg ED, but all
I've been in direct contact with have said those high doses have left them
with a sour taste for trenbolone. My friend won't even consider using
trenbolone again.
FINAPLIX CYCLE DURATION
I've done fina for 8 week cycles and even as long as 20 weeks. Post-cycle
recovery has not been an issue for me at either duration. Kendahl69 has some
lengthy experience with a propionate and fina cycle and I've not heard a
negative word about fina from him either. As with any AAS, cycle duration
decisions have more to do with post-cycle recovery experience and stats than any
other factor.
A great cycle might look like this:
Wk 1-4 Dianabol 30mg ED
Wk 1-6 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg wk
Wk 1-8 Trenbolone Acetate 75mg EOD
A next level cycle might look like this:
Wk 1-4 Dianabol 30mg ED
Wk 1-8 Testosterone Enanthate 750mg wk
Wk 1-10 Trenbolone Acetate 150mg EOD
Wk 1-13 Arimidex .25mg EOD
My favorite fina cycle:
Wk 1-4 Anadrol 50mg ED
Wk 1-10 Testosterone Enanthate 250mg EOD (875wk)
Wk 1-12 Trenbolone Acetate 150mg EOD
Wk 1-15 Arimidex .50mg EOD
Wk 1-12 Bromocriptine 1.25mg BID
(Normally I've started and ended this cycle with Prop, but for simplicities sake
I've posted it as is.)
Clomid Post Cycle
Day 1 - 300mgs
Day 2 - 200mgs
Days 3-14 - 100mg x 12 days
Days 15-21 - 50mgs x 7 days
FINAPLIX NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS
As with any androgenic anabolic steroid (AAS) side effects include acne,
hairloss, high blood pressure, shutdown of endogenous testosterone production
and more uniquely; sleeplessness, night sweats, aggression, and shoulder and/or
lower back muscle pain. I am one that is very prone to male pattern baldness and
have had not lost one hair while on any cycle, including trenbolone. For
heartburn I find a jar of Tums will get me through the cycle. I've tried
Melatonin, a natural sleep aid, with moderate success. The most uncomfortable
side effect I get is the shoulder and lower back muscle pain. Many refer to this
as a cramp, but it's more of an endless burn. Drinking 1.5 gallons of water
per day has helped me moderately. BillyGman has suggested to many to utilize
500mg of Magnesium bi-daily (BID) and avoid the urban legend of Potassium to
reduce muscle cramping. There are quite a few board members who have found
Magnesium helpful. I've tried the Magnesium BID with moderate success.
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