How To Use Insulin Without Gaining Fat
Since Insulin is such a new subject for most of you the way I am
going to do this post is going to be a little different. I am going
to write a few sections on it then give links to a lot of different
articles on the subject. I do not want to post a 10 page post that
will just confuse you. My suggestion is to read this post and all the
links then print out this post as instructions for your cycle. If you
still have questions on this topic after reading it, let me know.
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5 Side Effects
5 Ability to Keep Gains
Increased workout Pumps
Increase in appetite
Increase the transport of nutrients into the muscle cells.
My first experience with Insulin:
About 2 years ago I tried insulin for the first time. I started using
it 2weeks before my cycle to get use to it and figure out the best
dosage for me. I worked up to using it at 10 units in the morning, 10
before I lift and 10 units after. I had a bout with Hypoglycemia only
once but I felt pretty shitty for a few days after. Anyway I stacked
The cycle lasted 10 weeks and I put on 40lbs, keeping 30 of it. This
is what you can expect from you first bout with slin.
Section 1 - The right insulin to use and
There are various types of insulin available but as bodybuilders we
are only interested in the short acting types. The only two types
that should be used are Humalog and the R (Regular) Types. The
difference between the two is the time it takes them to peak and the
time to leave your system. In my opinion Humalog is the better choice
for new users. There are a few reasons for this.
1. Humalog starts to work within 15 minutes after taking it
2. Humalog more closely matches the action curves of the insulin
produced in your body then the R type.
3. Humalog does not last as long as the R type
All of these effects make Humalog easier to control then the R type.
The only problem with Humalog is some states that sell R type OTC
require a script for Humalog???. So ask about Humalog when you call.
If you cant get Humalog then use the R type but remember that there
are differences???. See below:
Onset of action within 15 minutes 30 minutes
Peak effect 30-90 minutes 2-4 hours
Duration less than 5 hours 6-8 hours
Section 2 - How to obtain Insulin:
Insulin is over the counter in many states. The best was to obtain it
is directly from a pharmacy. This way you know that it has been kept
cold and did not lose potency. If you do not know if Insulin is OTC
in your state then try this:
1. Call a pharmacy and tell them that you are from Florida and you
are going to be coming to their area for a business trip for about 1
month. Tell them that you are a diabetic and you need to know if
Insulin is sold with out a script their. Explain that since you live
in FL you do not have a script since it is OTC. Also ask if insulin
syringes are also sold OTC since some time one is but not the other.
Also try this in any bordering state that is in driving distance.
The next way to get insulin is from an online pharmacy. You can
usually order it and pins with out a problem. Hear is a list of sites
that sell insulin and insulin syringes:
Section 3 How to use Insulin for
(Everything I will talk about will be using the R type since it is
more available. If you can get Humalog email me if you have any
questions on how to change your usage)
Now that you have your insulin let say you bought Humulin R. You need
to make sure you have the right syringes. Insulin syringes are marked
for units not CCs. 1 CC OF INSULIN WILL KILL YOU. So make sure you
have the right type of syringes. You can order them from the sites
above. Every CC of insulin has 100 units in it. When you Inject you
can either Inject SubQ or Intra-muscular. Intra-muscular injections
take effect about twice as quick.
Some basic rules:
1. Eat as much protein as you can plus
10grams of carbs per unit of insulin immediately after shooting the
5 units = 50 carbs
2. Keep some kind of simple carb on you
at all times just incase you become hypoglycemic. A chocolate bar
3. Eat more protein and carbs about 2
hours after using the insulin. Around 5 grams of carbs per unit used
4. Continually snack through out the
rest of the day.
5. Try not to eat any fat for at least 4
hours after taking the insulin.
6. Try not to use insulin too late at
night. You want most of it out of your system before you go to sleep
7 ***** Important ***** Be aware of the
signs of Hypoglycemia:
- concentration problems
- visual disturbances
- muscle pain
- mood swings
- passing out
8. If you notice any of these signs
immediately eat as many simple carbs as you can
9. Do not use any stimulants until you
are use to how insulin effects you or you may mistake the signs of
hypoglycemia for the effects of the stimulants.
When to take insulin:
As a beginner you should start by just taking it after working out.
Start with 4 units and work up from there. Once you reach 10 units
after working out try throwing in another 10 units when you wake up
in the morning. I see no need to go much over 10 units at a time. I
worked my way up to 20 units and all that did was make me
Hear is what your day should look like once you reach this point:
6am wake up
6:30 am Inject 10 units of Humulin R
6:31 am Eat a 12 egg white omelet and 3 waffles with enough syrup to
= 100 carbs
8:30 am Drink a protein shake with at least 50 carbs in it
10:30 am an apple and a protein bar
12:30 pm Big lunch
2:30 pm Drink a protein shake (no carbs needed)
4:30 pm Snack
6:00 pm Inject 10 units of Humulin R (Assuming this is the end of
6:01pm Tuna salad with pasta and fat free mayo. (At least 100 carbs)
8:00 Drink a protein shake with at least 50 carbs in it
10:00 snack with some carbs
Before bed You should eat a good amount of carbs (50 or so) just to
Insulin for Dieting:
Insulin can be used to get you into ketosis in 1 day. This really
helps when doing any low carb diet. You will probably have to play
around with the dosage to see what you need to get into ketosis.
This is what I do:
Eliminate carbs from your diet
Day 1 of the diet take 4 shots of insulin spaced 3 hours apart.
8am 2units of Humulin R
11am 2units of Humulin R
1pm 2units of Humulin R
3pm 2units of Humulin R
By the next morning I am deep into ketosis.
Why Insulin works:
By Michalovich Greutstein
Should anabolics be used with insulin or is it best to use insulin
while off steroids in order to hold onto muscle mass?
We are going to demonstrate that they have to be used together. We
will also try to provide some clues about their respective
contribution to the synergy both hormones create. This will help us
to handle both drugs better.
Here are some general observations:
It is safe to conclude something else is needed to uncover the full
anabolic effect of steroids. The hormone which is the most affected
by a high calorie or by a low calorie diet is insulin. Also, heavy
steroid users know that past a certain amount of steroids, adding
insulin will make a big difference as far as muscle gains are
concerned. Insulin is thus a strong candidate as a potentiator of
anabolic steroids (which we will indiscriminately refer to as
androgens, steroids or anabolics). Furthermore, studies performed in
trained dogs have shown a lack of insulin completely negates the
anabolic effects of steroids on protein synthesis. There are some
easy hypotheses such as a possible androgen receptor up regulation, a
stimulation of androgen secretion, an antiaromatase effect arising
from insulin. But, there is still something missing.
Using anabolics plus insulin will not make you much bigger unless you
weight train. The synergy can only be realized if insulin + steroids
+ training are present. What is the link between those three factors?
A very likely candidate is an enzyme called insulinase. As its name
implies, it is an enzyme responsible for the destruction of insulin.
But we are going to see it does much more than that.
It is found inside many tissues of the body, particularly in muscle.
What science is telling us is that insulinase is essential for
insulin to provide its anti-catabolic effect on our muscles. It is
also likely that insulinase is able to multiply the anabolic effects
of androgens. It's worth repeating: insulin cannot stop protein
catabolism without insulinase and the effects of steroids are
potentiated by insulinase. It sure looks good.
Androgens are very powerful stimulators of the muscle protein
synthesis rate. On the other hand, the muscle gains provided by
androgens do not match this elevation in synthesis. steroids promote
anabolism to a much higher rate than they make our muscles grow.
The reason for this discrepancy is that they also stimulate protein
degradation. I know many people think they are anti-catabolic, but it
is not the case. Anabolics stimulate protein turnover. This means
they increase both synthesis and degradation of proteins. They are
simply more effective at stimulating synthesis than degradation,
which is why they make our muscles grow but not at a super fast rate.
Look at how long it takes to grow huge muscles. If androgens were
stimulating synthesis while inhibiting degradation, one would grow
very, very quickly.
This is where insulin comes in. As we said, it mostly reduces protein
degradation rate. It might stimulate protein synthesis right after
training, but this effect is very limited in duration. Ideally, using
insulin along with steroids would allow us to accelerate synthesis
(thanks to anabolics) and reduce degradation (thanks to insulin).
This is the best way to grow muscle fast.
Unfortunately, as both insulin and anabolics need insulinase to work
better, they will compete against each other for this enzyme. For
natural athletes, the supply of muscle insulinase should roughly meet
the demand. Now if you add anabolics, there will be less insulinase
for insulin. If you do not take too high a dose of steroids, the
level of insulinase should still be sufficient to allow a fair
But as you take more steroids, the insulinase available for insulin
will be lower and lower.
Insulin will lose its anti-catabolic effect. As it will still bind
some insulinase, the enzyme availability for steroids will not be
optimal either. Anabolics will lose some of their potency.
What is important to understand is that past a certain dose,
anabolics will provide their own antidote against muscle growth. The
only solution (beside using less steroids) is to increase insulinase
At least two factors can accomplish this feat:
The first one is insulin itself. The higher the insulin level is in a
target organ (muscle for example) the higher the insulinase level
will be. You would expect that the body would detect the shortage of
insulinase for insulin and so produce more insulin (or more
Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. While insulinase is
crucial for the anti-catabolic effect of insulin, it does not seem as
important for glucose disposal.
Insulin's main function is not to assist in muscle growth but to
control glucose homeostasis. As a result, it is likely our body does
not really care about a relative shortage of insulinase. In any case,
we are left with a less than optimal equilibrium. It is up to the
bodybuilder to react to this imbalance.
One way of increasing insulin secretion is to eat more, but you can
only do so up to a point. You cannot increase your carb intake in
parallel with the amount of steroids without getting too fat. Another
solution is to use drugs to add or to stimulate insulin secretion.
This way you get the insulin without the excess of calories.
In any case you now understand why steroids work better while on a
high calorie diet while they lose their potency during a diet or a
shortage of insulin.
Here is a way of "artificially increasing insulin level":
One dose of long acting insulin first thing in the morning (this is
the only injection). Before each meal (except the pre-workout one),
take a sulfonylurea (an oral anti-diabetic drug which will boost food
induced insulin secretion ). I like Glipizide because of its short
half-life. In case you experience hypoglycemia, you know it will not
last. This is the main problem with the long acting sulfonylureas.
When you are hypoglycemic, you try to compensate by absorbing carbs.
But the drug will make your pancreas secrete even more insulin before
the carbs can hit the blood. It makes the hypoglycemia worse - not
In case of problems, make sure you get some ready-to-inject Glucagon
(sold as "insulin emergency kits" in drugstores). An
additional benefit of the Glipizide is that it induces the release of
GH on top of insulin which is beneficial for non diabetics.
This is a nice way to fix the reduced anticatabolic property of
insulin. Unfortunately, this will not yet provide the optimal amount
of insulinase to have steroids work better.
We said that training was the third key ingredient in this synergy.
This is because training can stimulate insulinase activity. Not any
exercise will do. The traumatic ones inducing muscle soreness are the
most effective. It is the factors inducing soreness which will
trigger this increase in insulinase.
On the other hand, you do not want to create too much soreness as it
will temporarily reduce the effects of insulin and androgens by
impairing their effects at the level of their respective receptors.
What you want is mild but frequent soreness along with some very
frequent pumping sessions.
Do not forget both androgens and insulin circulate in the blood. The
more blood you get into the muscles (and the longer it stays), the
more your muscles will be "drenched" in those two hormones.
Please note that insulinase is produced locally in the trained
muscles only. It does not circulate into the blood.
From GUY at Canadian Juice
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